Snowy_River
Jul 12, 01:35 AM
Consolidating some replies here...
How about if inspector sections could be 'torn off' and moved or docked below like in photoshop? There are certainly 2 or 3 sections that I would like open all the time.<snip>
Why not just use more than one inspector? Pages allows you to add more inspectors to your screen anytime you want (up to a maximum of 8). If you've got the screen real-estate, why not just have an inspector for each panel that you're hitting all the time. I usually have at least two open...
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Grammer checker (dubious value in my opinion)
indexing
Better mathematical notation input
Table of Contents is not bad but could have some additional features.
better cross referencing
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I agree on all counts. I use MathType for my equations, and while I can relatively easily cut and paste them in, there are often text baseline issues, and it just plain isn't that elegant. AppleWorks had nice hooks into MathType or Equation Editor. Double click on an equation and it would pop up in the editor, and so on.
Apple never intended for iWork to compete with MS Office. Apple merely wanted to fill a niche for those AppleWorks users who didn't need a full blown behemoth Office Suite like MS Office.
It is only the die-hard Apple users that detest MS Office who are suggesting that iWork is a replacement for MS Office.
Well, now that depends, doesn't it. What percentage of users (consumer or professional) do you suppose actually use the features that set MS Word apart from Pages? I bet you it's pretty small. So, for all of the rest, then Pages is a competitor for MS Word. And that pool includes a lot of professionals as well as consumers. You said it, yourself. It's for users that don't need a behemoth office suite.
I have been using Pages and Keynote since Day One. Pages One was almost worthless in my book. Apple should have given away Pages v2 to those who suffered through version 1. Keynote was interesting and useful from version one but still lags significantly behind PowerPoint.
Okay, I'm curious, how is it that Keynote lags significantly behind PowerPoint? I started using Keynote with version 1, and I was able to do things with it that colleagues couldn't get close to with PowerPoint. Now, I'll grant that there are some things that PowerPoint does that Keynote is still either not good at or simply can't do, but the same can be said in the other direction. So, from my perspective, Keynote and PowerPoint have been on a nearly equal footing for some time. Yet you think PowerPoint is significantly ahead of Keynote? Please explain...
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I realize that some people will be more content with a consumer version and will recommend it as a replacement. But that still doesn't give it the same functionality of the Professional app.
Yeah, as others have said, let's be careful with labels. Just because I don't have $25,000 invested in camera equipment does that mean that I'm not a "professional" photographer? Or, if I wrote a book using an iBook instead of a "professional" computer like a PowerBook or a PowerMac or (gulp) a PC, does that mean that I'm not a professional author? I could go on, but my point is simple. Programs are tools, just like computers, cameras, etc. The tool is never what makes a professional. The person using it is.
Now, that said, there are some professionals who need some of the tools that MS Office gives them, and they can't do their job without them. Great. Use MS Office. More power to them. But there are a lot of professionals who don't, and for them iWork can be a perfectly functional professional application. And, I think what some others have been trying to say is that it might even be a better application.
How about if inspector sections could be 'torn off' and moved or docked below like in photoshop? There are certainly 2 or 3 sections that I would like open all the time.<snip>
Why not just use more than one inspector? Pages allows you to add more inspectors to your screen anytime you want (up to a maximum of 8). If you've got the screen real-estate, why not just have an inspector for each panel that you're hitting all the time. I usually have at least two open...
<snip>
Grammer checker (dubious value in my opinion)
indexing
Better mathematical notation input
Table of Contents is not bad but could have some additional features.
better cross referencing
<snip>
I agree on all counts. I use MathType for my equations, and while I can relatively easily cut and paste them in, there are often text baseline issues, and it just plain isn't that elegant. AppleWorks had nice hooks into MathType or Equation Editor. Double click on an equation and it would pop up in the editor, and so on.
Apple never intended for iWork to compete with MS Office. Apple merely wanted to fill a niche for those AppleWorks users who didn't need a full blown behemoth Office Suite like MS Office.
It is only the die-hard Apple users that detest MS Office who are suggesting that iWork is a replacement for MS Office.
Well, now that depends, doesn't it. What percentage of users (consumer or professional) do you suppose actually use the features that set MS Word apart from Pages? I bet you it's pretty small. So, for all of the rest, then Pages is a competitor for MS Word. And that pool includes a lot of professionals as well as consumers. You said it, yourself. It's for users that don't need a behemoth office suite.
I have been using Pages and Keynote since Day One. Pages One was almost worthless in my book. Apple should have given away Pages v2 to those who suffered through version 1. Keynote was interesting and useful from version one but still lags significantly behind PowerPoint.
Okay, I'm curious, how is it that Keynote lags significantly behind PowerPoint? I started using Keynote with version 1, and I was able to do things with it that colleagues couldn't get close to with PowerPoint. Now, I'll grant that there are some things that PowerPoint does that Keynote is still either not good at or simply can't do, but the same can be said in the other direction. So, from my perspective, Keynote and PowerPoint have been on a nearly equal footing for some time. Yet you think PowerPoint is significantly ahead of Keynote? Please explain...
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I realize that some people will be more content with a consumer version and will recommend it as a replacement. But that still doesn't give it the same functionality of the Professional app.
Yeah, as others have said, let's be careful with labels. Just because I don't have $25,000 invested in camera equipment does that mean that I'm not a "professional" photographer? Or, if I wrote a book using an iBook instead of a "professional" computer like a PowerBook or a PowerMac or (gulp) a PC, does that mean that I'm not a professional author? I could go on, but my point is simple. Programs are tools, just like computers, cameras, etc. The tool is never what makes a professional. The person using it is.
Now, that said, there are some professionals who need some of the tools that MS Office gives them, and they can't do their job without them. Great. Use MS Office. More power to them. But there are a lot of professionals who don't, and for them iWork can be a perfectly functional professional application. And, I think what some others have been trying to say is that it might even be a better application.
dextertangocci
Jul 25, 09:40 AM
First of all, I think this should have been released at most a couple months after the introduction of the Mighty Mouse. Taking a year to give it BT capabilities is ridiculous.
And $70 for a ****ing mouse is absurd. Doesn't look like I'll be buying anymore mice from apple.
I payed more than that for my Apple BT mouse a few days ago:mad: :rolleyes: :(
And $70 for a ****ing mouse is absurd. Doesn't look like I'll be buying anymore mice from apple.
I payed more than that for my Apple BT mouse a few days ago:mad: :rolleyes: :(
craigatkinson
Jul 25, 09:17 AM
Nope, I checked. No educational discount on the mighty mouse. :(
Your kidding?
PS: Maybe I can get an Edu discount on it, also.
Your kidding?
PS: Maybe I can get an Edu discount on it, also.
plumosa
Apr 22, 04:40 PM
I find the ip4 to be way too heavy and awkward to hold. I like this design, it allows weight to be shaved off and perhaps (!) be more ergonomically friendly.
I agree that the back should be made extra study and NOT in chrome. I see them using the same type of backing as the ipads...
One more thing that the tapered back will enable is ease of use while its on a desk because the viewing angle will be nicer. On the other hand, it would make it more awkward in landscape mode and for playing game because one side would be thicker than the other. Perhaps its easy to get used to? time will tell!
I agree that the back should be made extra study and NOT in chrome. I see them using the same type of backing as the ipads...
One more thing that the tapered back will enable is ease of use while its on a desk because the viewing angle will be nicer. On the other hand, it would make it more awkward in landscape mode and for playing game because one side would be thicker than the other. Perhaps its easy to get used to? time will tell!
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alexf
Oct 18, 05:57 PM
I hear a bit of what he is saying though. I mean there wasn't much innovation, just.... it was more like building the perfect car, say something like a Subaru WRX ( my car that I love very much) but replaced with a nicer engine from Porsche.... some better tires off a Lancer.... a nice tranny off of Porsche again.... neverthless... this is what they did with the Mac. Took some great stuff out there like Glossy Screen, Webcams, and Intel chips and put em in our loving Mac. However, the only piece of innocation was the Maglev charger. There was no new standards... no new gear. Yet, I do believe you are asking for too much if they are expected to innovate every product revision. Its becoming a very big company.... its no longer a couple thousand products where you can mess-up on some new innovation...
But I'm not worried... there hasn't been much innovation elsewhere either so its not like Apple is behind... they are in front. Just not WAY in front. We'll see what happens with Leopard/802.11N/Santa Rosa/HD DVDs/Hybrid HDs..... innovation is in the pipeline. Don't worry.
2007 is going to be a very good year.
And 2008 even better. Presidential Election! ;)
Yes, thank you. At least someone else out there is emotionally distanced enough from the iPod and the Apple entertainment sector to be a bit objective.
Innovation: just what happened to Apple's innovative spirit when it comes to computers? The latest Mac Pro was fitted into the existing (and way oversized) G5 case. The MacBook was disappointing in that - proportionally - Apple did not shrink it at all or make it lighter than its predecessor (a design which had been in existence for about four years). There are more things, but I really don't want to sound like a troll here...
Apple needs to come out with new computer models that are unlike anything else out there. What about a tiny, thin ultraportable? What about a smaller tower, so those of us that want a pro computer don't have to invest in an oversized monster (which is larger than any PCs in the market that I am aware of). Aren't computers supposed to get SMALLER as the technology advances? Why is Apple obsessed with making the iPod smaller and smaller, but does not care as much about its laptops and desktops?
The answer: profit, or course. The iPod is Apple's cash cow. And this, my friends, is what I mean when I say that Apple needs to be partitioning off a little of its innovative energy that it is putting into its entertainment sector and bring it back to the computer line.
Understood now?
OK, now fire away :)
But I'm not worried... there hasn't been much innovation elsewhere either so its not like Apple is behind... they are in front. Just not WAY in front. We'll see what happens with Leopard/802.11N/Santa Rosa/HD DVDs/Hybrid HDs..... innovation is in the pipeline. Don't worry.
2007 is going to be a very good year.
And 2008 even better. Presidential Election! ;)
Yes, thank you. At least someone else out there is emotionally distanced enough from the iPod and the Apple entertainment sector to be a bit objective.
Innovation: just what happened to Apple's innovative spirit when it comes to computers? The latest Mac Pro was fitted into the existing (and way oversized) G5 case. The MacBook was disappointing in that - proportionally - Apple did not shrink it at all or make it lighter than its predecessor (a design which had been in existence for about four years). There are more things, but I really don't want to sound like a troll here...
Apple needs to come out with new computer models that are unlike anything else out there. What about a tiny, thin ultraportable? What about a smaller tower, so those of us that want a pro computer don't have to invest in an oversized monster (which is larger than any PCs in the market that I am aware of). Aren't computers supposed to get SMALLER as the technology advances? Why is Apple obsessed with making the iPod smaller and smaller, but does not care as much about its laptops and desktops?
The answer: profit, or course. The iPod is Apple's cash cow. And this, my friends, is what I mean when I say that Apple needs to be partitioning off a little of its innovative energy that it is putting into its entertainment sector and bring it back to the computer line.
Understood now?
OK, now fire away :)
rusty2192
Apr 7, 03:31 PM
Another from the KY Vietnam Veterans Memorial
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5064/5596946708_3eaba5a469.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/48874590@N02/5596946708/)
IMG_3160 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/48874590@N02/5596946708/) by Rusty2192 (http://www.flickr.com/people/48874590@N02/), on Flickr
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5064/5596946708_3eaba5a469.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/48874590@N02/5596946708/)
IMG_3160 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/48874590@N02/5596946708/) by Rusty2192 (http://www.flickr.com/people/48874590@N02/), on Flickr
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starflyer
Apr 14, 03:12 PM
Of course since jailbreaks only happen because of security holes. So I hope Apple closes up security holes even if it means jailbreaking breaks. While I'd like Apple to make it possible to jailbreak easier I won't begrudge them this approach.
It's funny. It's like the jailbreakers are doing Apple's job for them by finding these security holes.
It's funny. It's like the jailbreakers are doing Apple's job for them by finding these security holes.
rtdunham
Oct 18, 05:00 PM
To be honest Steve seems to say that every year, the problem is after he says it the first year if he doesn't say it about the next year shareholders will be more worried about their investment so it becomes a repetition.
I'm thinking the same thing. Can anyone find the appropriate quote from, say, last year's MWSF? I know i've been waiting since then for the exciting new products he promised: intel conversions don't count, nor do new casings and better batteries for iPods. The MacBook counts as a new product and the sales achieved by it could put it into the exciting category. iTV may fit but it's not coming out til next year. So what did Steve promise for 06? And what fits that bill?
I'm thinking the same thing. Can anyone find the appropriate quote from, say, last year's MWSF? I know i've been waiting since then for the exciting new products he promised: intel conversions don't count, nor do new casings and better batteries for iPods. The MacBook counts as a new product and the sales achieved by it could put it into the exciting category. iTV may fit but it's not coming out til next year. So what did Steve promise for 06? And what fits that bill?
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-aggie-
Apr 27, 10:02 PM
For now, I'll switch. Nies
Looks like I need to switch to nies.
Deadline is 10:30 am EST.
Looks like I need to switch to nies.
Deadline is 10:30 am EST.
Steelers7510
Apr 15, 07:09 AM
For once BGR isn't just talking out of there arses.
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Bentobilly
Apr 28, 11:08 PM
Seriously, why not an Imac with touch-screen right now? Will we need to wait for the next iMac update to see this technology implemented?
Apple is surely working on it:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/apple/7961480/Apple-files-iMac-touch-patent.html
And, besides that, OS X Lion will be 100% focused on touch technology... and we�re not talking about an Ipad OS...
Are you planning on nursing your iMac in your lap?:rolleyes:
Apple is surely working on it:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/apple/7961480/Apple-files-iMac-touch-patent.html
And, besides that, OS X Lion will be 100% focused on touch technology... and we�re not talking about an Ipad OS...
Are you planning on nursing your iMac in your lap?:rolleyes:
milo
Jul 24, 05:17 PM
I love my MM, makes me miss the scroll ball when I use anything else.
If buttons or wheel aren't working right for you, why don't you just take it back and get a replacement under warranty?
If buttons or wheel aren't working right for you, why don't you just take it back and get a replacement under warranty?
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IJ Reilly
Jul 11, 10:36 AM
Photoshop Elements 4.0 is a capable replacement for Photoshop CS2 for a lot of people, even professionals. It depends on what you're doing with it.
I've used various word processors since writing my own in the early 1980s and MS Word 4.0 was quite nice but Microsoft kept adding so many features that it's become haphazard and troublesome. It is counter-productive for a lot of people, especially when you have to revise previous documents.
Pages 2 is a useful release but it's not final. To discount it or iWork totally is not reasonable.
Yeah, isn't it nice when people decide unilaterally what is "professional" and what is not? The distinctions are totally arbitrary of course, but it's easy to see how by virtue of this thinking, Word remains dominant. Nothing else will do, because nothing else will do. What a wonderful tautology.
For the record, I've been using Pages happily and successfully since it came out. Version 2 is an improvement, as well it should be, but that's a long way from saying that version 1 was worthless.
I've used various word processors since writing my own in the early 1980s and MS Word 4.0 was quite nice but Microsoft kept adding so many features that it's become haphazard and troublesome. It is counter-productive for a lot of people, especially when you have to revise previous documents.
Pages 2 is a useful release but it's not final. To discount it or iWork totally is not reasonable.
Yeah, isn't it nice when people decide unilaterally what is "professional" and what is not? The distinctions are totally arbitrary of course, but it's easy to see how by virtue of this thinking, Word remains dominant. Nothing else will do, because nothing else will do. What a wonderful tautology.
For the record, I've been using Pages happily and successfully since it came out. Version 2 is an improvement, as well it should be, but that's a long way from saying that version 1 was worthless.
ansabakhan
Apr 13, 07:58 PM
at&t ?, Verizon ? or both?
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neutrino23
Dec 1, 03:32 PM
Which makes it even MORE odd that it's enabled by default in MacTels, which don't run Classic. :confused:
Hmm. I'm running a 17" MacBook Pro with 10.4.8 and when I checked under both Ethernet and Airport Appletalk was not enabled. On this machine I have never set it one way or the other.
Hmm. I'm running a 17" MacBook Pro with 10.4.8 and when I checked under both Ethernet and Airport Appletalk was not enabled. On this machine I have never set it one way or the other.
fabian9
Apr 22, 04:23 PM
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_3_1 like Mac OS X; en-gb) AppleWebKit/533.17.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.0.2 Mobile/8G4 Safari/6533.18.5)
That looks sexy. I dont think they'll be able to go back to a metallic back though because they'd struggle to put antennas anywhere else than the back...
That looks sexy. I dont think they'll be able to go back to a metallic back though because they'd struggle to put antennas anywhere else than the back...
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pmd
May 2, 08:50 PM
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Also iMacs are still shipping in 24hrs on the apple website, a good sign that the new iMacs are not coming just yet.
Well, that could be interpreted as:
If you order an iMac now, it will ship tomorrow. It just might be a newer model than the one you were expecting! :D
Also iMacs are still shipping in 24hrs on the apple website, a good sign that the new iMacs are not coming just yet.
Well, that could be interpreted as:
If you order an iMac now, it will ship tomorrow. It just might be a newer model than the one you were expecting! :D
milo
Jul 28, 02:54 PM
It has something unique, look at all the press covering it now, and how many of us are talking about it.
Just because it's being talked about doesn't make it unique. So what is unique about it?
And people are only talking about it because it's an announcement from a huge company. Which has nothing to do with whether it will actually sell well or not.
Just because it's being talked about doesn't make it unique. So what is unique about it?
And people are only talking about it because it's an announcement from a huge company. Which has nothing to do with whether it will actually sell well or not.
Prof.
Sep 17, 03:55 PM
Telling myself it's an "Educational Purchase" makes me feel better about spending so much money lol.:D
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http://grab.by/6rkO
Mr. Retrofire
Apr 15, 02:23 PM
Direct links:
Lion Client DP2 Update 1 (http://swcdn.apple.com/content/downloads/00/21/041-0836/hHbPjrRxyf66N3gVXVPqyV7fMzyf44jmLL/LionSWUpdate.pkg)
Lion Server DP2 Update 1 (http://swcdn.apple.com/content/downloads/00/21/041-0836/hHbPjrRxyf66N3gVXVPqyV7fMzyf44jmLL/LionSWUpdateServer.pkg)
Lion Server Essentials DP2 Update 1 (http://swcdn.apple.com/content/downloads/00/21/041-0836/hHbPjrRxyf66N3gVXVPqyV7fMzyf44jmLL/LionSWUpdateServerEssentials.pkg)
Lion Server Admin Tools DP2 Update 1 (http://swcdn.apple.com/content/downloads/00/21/041-0836/hHbPjrRxyf66N3gVXVPqyV7fMzyf44jmLL/LionSWUpdateServerAdminTools.pkg)
These packages are only useful if you've already downloaded Lion DP2 from apple.com. These packages are just updates, they DO NOT contain the full versions.
Lion Client DP2 Update 1 (http://swcdn.apple.com/content/downloads/00/21/041-0836/hHbPjrRxyf66N3gVXVPqyV7fMzyf44jmLL/LionSWUpdate.pkg)
Lion Server DP2 Update 1 (http://swcdn.apple.com/content/downloads/00/21/041-0836/hHbPjrRxyf66N3gVXVPqyV7fMzyf44jmLL/LionSWUpdateServer.pkg)
Lion Server Essentials DP2 Update 1 (http://swcdn.apple.com/content/downloads/00/21/041-0836/hHbPjrRxyf66N3gVXVPqyV7fMzyf44jmLL/LionSWUpdateServerEssentials.pkg)
Lion Server Admin Tools DP2 Update 1 (http://swcdn.apple.com/content/downloads/00/21/041-0836/hHbPjrRxyf66N3gVXVPqyV7fMzyf44jmLL/LionSWUpdateServerAdminTools.pkg)
These packages are only useful if you've already downloaded Lion DP2 from apple.com. These packages are just updates, they DO NOT contain the full versions.
firestarter
Apr 24, 02:39 PM
Why are you trying to turn the assault into bullying / an LGBT hate crime? I know MacRumors PRSI is obsessed with the issue, but there's no evidence for it.
According to The Smoking Gun (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/mcdonalds/mcdonalds-employee-filmed-brutal-beating-640128) the McDonald's employee sacked was Vernon Charm Hackett, who had the following to say on his Facebook page:
http://i.cdn.turner.com/dr/teg/tsg/release/sites/default/files/assets/1fbgrabsizedforinside.jpg
According to The Smoking Gun (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/mcdonalds/mcdonalds-employee-filmed-brutal-beating-640128) the McDonald's employee sacked was Vernon Charm Hackett, who had the following to say on his Facebook page:
http://i.cdn.turner.com/dr/teg/tsg/release/sites/default/files/assets/1fbgrabsizedforinside.jpg
rjohnstone
Sep 30, 05:04 PM
I'd say it's more of a yes and no on AT&T quality.
While their service may be spotty in certain locations, the iPhone doesn't exactly have the most stellar antenna.
My iPhone has dropped calls in locations where my N75 (also on AT&T) has never missed a beat.
While their service may be spotty in certain locations, the iPhone doesn't exactly have the most stellar antenna.
My iPhone has dropped calls in locations where my N75 (also on AT&T) has never missed a beat.
macduke
Sep 30, 09:04 AM
Maybe I should forget to pay my bill 30% of the time.
My wife had VZ and hated them. I doubt that there is actually any network out there that has acceptable quality. The iPhone is essentially a phone straight out of the future. It's like trying to run a RAZR on a network in the late 80's. It's too much data.
My wife had VZ and hated them. I doubt that there is actually any network out there that has acceptable quality. The iPhone is essentially a phone straight out of the future. It's like trying to run a RAZR on a network in the late 80's. It's too much data.
Intell
Apr 25, 10:35 PM
You need my approval to sell the sandwhich shop which I (in God-form) have given you. Consider it denied.
Overruled.
Overruled.
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